Agenda item

MARKET PLACE - QUESTIONS TO CITY MAYOR

The City Mayor will be present to answer questions from members of the Commission regarding potential proposals for the Market Place.

Minutes:

The City Mayor attended the meeting to answer questions from members of the Commission regarding potential proposals for the market place.

 

The Chair noted that a preferred option was still to be decided upon, and once it was, it would be considered by the Commission.

 

The City Mayor gave some background on the issue and noted that:

  • Whilst the area had been used as a market place for around 800 years, for much of this time its use had been flexible to include uses other than markets.
  • It had become clear that the stalls and roof had become worn down.
  • Previously, out of trading hours, the space had become an intimidating area for the public and people had not wanted to walk through or around it.
  • The roof cover had meant that the space was unsuitable to be used for other purposes.
  • It had been decided to replace the roof and reinvest in the market place.  When the roof was taken down, it had been thought as to whether a similarly inflexible structure was desirable given what had been revealed, and whether it would be more desirable to have a space that could be used more flexibly and also allow the facades of adjacent buildings to be seen.
  • The City Mayor was intensely aware that traders were understandably troubled at the prospect of not returning to the original site.
  • The City Mayor had met with traders and had constructive discussions.  They had put their case strongly and the City Mayor understood their concerns.
  • Broadly speaking, the options for the future location of the market were:
    • Return to the original proposal with the market in the original location in front of the Corn Exchange.
    • Keep the market on Green Dragon Square.
    • Use space being cleared between Green Dragon Square and Cank Street.
    • Locate the market in front of the Food Hall, keeping a portion of the remainder of the space in front of the Corn Exchange open and flexible in terms of use.
  • The City Mayor would meet with traders again once the preferred option was confirmed.  There would then be a process of consultation which would invite comments on the proposed option. During this consultation period there would be a further opportunity for scrutiny to ask questions and comment.

 

The Commission was invited to ask questions and make comments and the City Mayor to respond. Key points included:

  • The City Mayor had looked at markets around the country and had reported back on how good several were.  However, this did not necessarily mean that they could be copied. 
  • Once the old market had been demolished the potential of the space was revealed. Many had questioned whether returning to the traditional layout of the market in that location was the best use of the space.  Planning permission had already been granted to develop across the whole space, and it could still be decided to return to this option.  However, other options had seemed attractive and were worth considering.
  • In terms of contractors, they had been brought in to take down existing stalls and clear the space.  Contractors were keen to proceed once a decision was made.
  • In terms of timescale, it was aimed to talk with traders in the next three-to-four weeks, after which there would be a consultation over approximately six weeks.  Whichever option was chosen, it would not be delivered instantly.  The more elaborate the solution, the longer it would take to deliver. 
  • In terms of planning, any solution would need a further planning application and consent.  This was an argument for sticking with the original plan.  However, there was a once in a lifetime opportunity to think about how the space was used so it was important to get this right, even if it took slightly more time.
  • Costs would depend on which option was taken.  The original scheme would be one that was costly.  It was thought that other solutions ought to be containable within the original costs and could possible even be cheaper.  This would need to be worked out before a decision was made as cost was important.
  • The Director for Tourism, Culture and Inward Investment noted that almost all traders had relocated to the Temporary Market site on Green Dragon Square, and most of those were still trading.  Rents were still charged but at a discounted rate to support traders during the period of the disruption.
  • The timeframe for when the redeveloped market would be open, and trading would depend on the option chosen.  It was thought that the longest option would be to rebuild on the Cank Street link and the quickest would be to keep the market on Green Dragon Square.  It was further thought that the next quickest option would be to put a structure on part of the market square and it was thought that the original proposal would take some time.
  • It was planned to invite comments on the proposed solution.  Time and cost needed to be taken into account.
  • In response to concerns raised over what had happened with the market in Nottingham, the City Mayor suggested that the Council could learn from what had happened in Nottingham.
  • In response to concerns raised about the attractiveness of the surrounding buildings, it was stated that amongst those in support of leaving the space open were the Civic Society due to the facades being revealed.
  • The project should consider how Anti-Social Behaviour (ASB) could be managed, particularly when the market was closed at night.
  • It was reiterated that there was a lot of construction work associated with the original scheme and that the Cank Street link option would also take a long time as it would involve demolition and design.  Construction on only part of the square could be less problematic, however, experts would need to be consulted to inform the way forward.
  • It needed to be ascertained what would be deliverable, and what time and cost it would take.
  • The City Mayor stated that it had been a pleasure to work with the market traders who were passionate about their businesses and their stake in the market, and who had put forward constructive suggestions.

 

AGREED:

That Scrutiny is given an opportunity to comment on the proposed option.